UPDATE, 8:15pmET, May 22, 2014: I had an email exchange with one of the study’s co-authors today, and she wrote me that Cohn’s inferences about the data were his and not her research group’s conclusions. She also wrote that the study was still not public, nor was it finalized. Read more here.
In the ongoing and rather ridiculous trend of how non-Latinos (see Slate) are addressing Latinidad for national outlets, this week Nate Cohn of The New York Times’ “The Upshot” got all analytical with the following piece, “More Hispanics Declaring Themselves White.”
Before proceeding to completely knock down Cohn’s conclusions and prove yet again that having non-Latinos talk about Latino identity without having Latinos at the center of the conversation (just read what Blanca Elizabeth Vega says), let’s review how the Times presents this piece.
We already mentioned the sensational headline: “More Hispanics Declaring Themselves White,” which is followed by an animated graphic of a figure in grey (grey?) going from grey to white.
Enough said.
The crux of Cohn’s piece is this paragraph, which refers to this Pew study:
The researchers found that 2.5 million Americans of Hispanic origin, or approximately 7 percent of the 35 million Americans of Hispanic origin in 2000, changed their race from “some other race” in 2000 to “white” in 2010. An additional 1.3 million people switched in the other direction. A noteworthy but unspecified share of the change came from children who weren’t old enough to fill out a form in 2000, but chose for themselves in 2010.
Let’s stop for a moment and do some math. First, in 2000, according to Cohn and the census, there were 35 million Americans of Hispanic origin. Of those 35 million, 2.5 million went from “some other race” to “white” in 2010. However, in 2010, according to the census, there were 50.5 million Hispanics in the U.S. What race did the additional 15.5 million people who identified as Hispanic in 2010 mark? And what about the 1.3 million who switched in the other direction? That would be just a net of 1.2 million people who changed back to “white,” and given the fact that there was a 43 percent increase in the U.S. Hispanic population from 2000 to 2010, wouldn’t Cohn’s definitive conclusion suggest a lesser percentage if you took into account the 2010 total numbers instead of basing it on the 2000 ones?
In addition, why not bring in the actual 2010 census numbers to give the Times piece more context? See this:
You can have all the separate Pew studies you like, but the actual census numbers reveal so much more:
- The U.S. white population decreased by almost three percentage points and was the slowest-growing population in terms of percentage. So even if Cohn’s is piece is suggesting that more Hispanics are declaring to be more “white,” the actual white population is decreasing.
- All other non-white populations grew by double-digit percentages. Is anyone asking how many Hispanics switched to those categories? Anyone?
- There was also a 32% increase in “two or more races.” Is that a sign of a country that is becoming more “white?”
Nonetheless, even though Cohn’s logic is faulty, let’s still play with it. In the beginning of his piece, he says this, “Hispanics are often described as driving up the nonwhite share of the population. But a new study of census forms finds that more Hispanics are identifying as white.”
Then he makes it a point to say this:
The data provide new evidence consistent with the theory that Hispanics may assimilate as white Americans, like the Italians or Irish, who were not universally considered to be white. It is particularly significant that the shift toward white identification withstood a decade of debate over immigration and the country’s exploding Hispanic population, which might have been expected to inculcate or reinforce a sense of Hispanic identity, or draw attention to divisions that remain between Hispanics and non-Hispanic white Americans.
Just another paragraph down, Cohn says this:
White identification is not necessarily a sign that Hispanics consider themselves white. Many or even most might identify their race as “Hispanic” if it were an explicit option.
There is so much there, but interestingly enough, Cohn never really took the time to mention what “white” means, according to the census. This is the official definition:
Step back for a second and seriously tell me that someone with roots in the Middle East or North Africa would have the same exact experience as someone whose roots came from Europe? Yet, it seems that Cohn has fallen into the typical conclusion that since whiteness in the U.S. is the dominant culture, anyone who identifies as white would naturally want to assimilate and be part of that dominant culture.
Also, Cohn misses one really big point about how “a sense of Hispanic identity” had done little to withstand white identification. That is being redefined right now.
The messiness between race and culture once again gets confused, and Cohn lacks a deep understanding of Latinidad to communicate those points. It is obvious to that he didn’t read Vega’s piece or what Ed Morales wrote just a few weeks ago.
What is the future of Latin@s in a country of racism without racists? In the conclusion of “Latin/o Whitening” it says that contrary to previous speculation, Latin@s don’t appear to be actively seeking to claim whiteness. So is it possible, then, that the idea of blackness could also expand enough for many Latin@s to claim it? Instead of claiming the “brown” middle, maybe what a person of conscience should do is claim blackness regardless of whether or not one has a phenotypical appearance that would be considered “black.”
But if you need even more convincing, why not ask other Latinos?
@julito77 @nytimes um…they did a piece last year on how more hispanics are declaring themselves native american. ny times is weird
— fresafresca (@fresafresca3000) May 21, 2014
True. Good point.
@julito77 @nytimes the entire point being that “Latino/Hispanic” is not a fit description. American, then Puerto Rican, then maybe “Latino” — Antonio Altamirano (@antonio) May 21, 2014
Maybe it’s time to change the description.
Then there are these nuggets from a Twitter friend:
@julito77 @nytimes You know, when my mom and I were filling out the census form she said, “Wait, why is it asking if I’m white or black?”
— Susana Orozco (@SusanDelCampo) May 21, 2014
@julito77 @nytimes I told her that’s a question of race. We both put down white, not because we suddenly identify with Whites, but because..
— Susana Orozco (@SusanDelCampo) May 21, 2014
@julito77 @nytimes …the other options were black or other. Since my family is predominantly of white race, that’s what we put down. — Susana Orozco (@SusanDelCampo) May 21, 2014
Then there is this.
@julito77 @nytimes this further emphasizes the fluidity of race especially”whitenes”which in the census is DIFF than when ur stopped by COPS — Project Bronx (@ProjectBronx) May 21, 2014
@julito77 @nytimes the census cases a WIDE net for “whiteness” in order to keep it’s political clout. It’s a numbers game…
— Project Bronx (@ProjectBronx) May 21, 2014
@julito77 @nytimes “white” on census yet still #POC in real life…#dontbelievethehype — Project Bronx (@ProjectBronx) May 21, 2014
Yup.
But this is also true.
@julito77 @nytimes Devil’s advocate: Many Latinos think themselves as ‘White’ no matter how “Paisa’ they are, and look down on “Indios”
— Miliano (@Miliano5) May 21, 2014
Listen, I totally know that Latinos have serious issues when it comes to race and identity. And that some Latinos will identify as Latinos, some will completely reject it, while others will think this is all a result of centuries of oppression. I get that.
But let’s not fall into the mainstream trap that all of a sudden the United States is getting “whiter” because a small percentage of Latinos marked “white” on a government form that tries to put us all in this neat little box. Those days are over, and so are the ones where non-Latinos need to stop talking about Latinos without actually engaging Latinos. All Cohn had to do is read this comment on his own piece:
“Many or even most might identify their race as “Hispanic” if it were an explicit option”
This is the point. Hispanic isn’t a race choice on the forms people are filling in. I am Hispanic but if my choices are white, African or Asian or Native American, and they demand a number for Native American (we are Mestizo, so a mix of natives and Spanish settlers, but the tribal connection is long gone), then I have to choose white, particularly if it is required.
I prefer to accurately describe myself as of mixed heritage but that’s not always an option. If both my parents were Hispanic, I would have to choose White Hispanic.
That said, of course Hispanic, in and of itself, is European. But many North American Hispanics, like me, are actually mixed with the native population and that is who we represent in “racial” terms. You can see it on people’s faces. Native face, Spanish name, American accent. What’s a person to do?
Keep speaking out, I guess. And if you don’t want to read any more, just watch this:
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EDITOR’S NOTE: Julio (Julito) Ricardo Varela (@julito77) founded LatinoRebels.com in May, 2011 and proceeded to open it up to about 20 like-minded Rebeldes. His personal blog, juliorvarela.com, has been active since 2008 and is widely read in Puerto Rico and beyond. He pens columns on LR regularly. In the last two years, Julito represented the Rebeldes on CBS’ Face the Nation, NPR, Univision, and The New York Times. Recently, he was a digital producer for Al Jazeera America’s The Stream.
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I like this news article and the question posed. I like many in the YouTube video “When Brown people think they are White” was convinced I was Hispanic growing up. I was born in 1960 and grew up with Beatles, Salsa, Merengue & Led Zeppelin due to our multi-generational living situation. Since my grandmother only spoke Spanish I considered myself Hispanic. In the 1980’s I was corrected by another Hispanic when the discussion of the 1980 census came up and as to how I declared my race. I did not complete the 1980 Census but I said I am Hispanic to which my friend told me that “being Hispanic is a culture, not a race”. So I asked her how she listed her race and she said she was white and that I only had to look at her skin color to tell that. Somehow that comment did not convince me that I was white and since the color of my skin is not brown then how do I declare my race. Since you listed in this news article the census definition of race categories: https://www.latinorebels.com//wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Census.jpg I see that “White refers to a person having origins in Europe…” now does that mean me, my parents, my grandparents or my great grandparents. I am Puerto Rican and I know from family discussions that my mother was chastised for marrying my father since my mother’s side of the family attempted to stay “European” while my father obviously had “African Influences” in his family make up. When I was young I had learned that Puerto Ricans are a mix of Europeans (Spain), Native Americans (Taino) & African (Slaves). I had always thought growing up that this didn’t make any difference until I began experiencing discrimination from others who also considered themselves “White” but without the proper understanding to realize they also were immigrants to this country and they also were not considered “White” until recent times or as in Star Trek “The Borg” episodes they were assimilated into the Collective. So how far back can I go to determine how white I am, is it up to me, the government states “having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe…”, it’s all a mess.
Growing up NuyorRican in the 1970s the Puerto Ricans from born in Puerto Rico said I was not Puerto Rican because I was not born on the Island, some whites that I new growing up said I was not white because I was Puerto Rican and I come from a mixed background and blacks that I knew said I was white, they would say ” just look at your skin color” and this is why I feel that I identified as Hispanic as if my race is my culture and vice-versa. In the recent census I identified at White but only because my skin in not brown or that of someone that would consider themselves black. Do we need to add a color swatch with the different shades for white, off-white, light brown, brown, dark brown on the chart to determine race? Did I do the right thing? Quien Sabes.
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we should really push all of us to start identifying as Native American. That’s what i’ve been marking as race because although there is Spanish (threfore, European) blood in me:
a) One half ofmy roots can be traced to THIS continent – Natives of America (Cemanahuac), and
b) my family and i have always – as long as i remember – suffered the injustices of a brown people – of native americans, of blacks, of “latinos.” why would i identify with my “white” portion, when this eurocentric society never has.
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Crime statistics always lumps mestizos in with the Caucasians, that in itself is bs. If you’re labeled yourself a minority for for government hand outs then you should have the same label when you get arrested.
Why is there so much angst over Hispanics declaring themselves and their children as white? There is almost a shame put on them if they dare check off that box. Leave these people alone and get over your anger and dismay. It really is ridiculous.
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Lol most of these Latinos have more African blood than African Americans. They are so dumb they don’t even know how the much intermarriage tbey had in the 17th century. Another poi t if these Hispanics are white then why can’t they fix their ruined countries?
No you are not Native and in Latin America the Native people are looked down on.
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There’s no such thing as “latin race” LMAO Latin America is just a place colonized by latin countries
This article was so dumb. All of this to say that your so-called « latinos » are from the white race but because you are told to hate white Americans you don’t want to be affiliated to them. Ridiculous, definitely an inferiority complex. And I say that from an European POV. The only difference between white Americans and « Latinos » is that white Americans mainly come from Northern European countries while Hispanics obviously come from Southern European countries, especially Portugal and Spain. Obviously northern countries have been on certain points much better than southern countries. But trying to dissociate you from white Americans because they don’t want to accept everyone of you is frankly ridiculous.